How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

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There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

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I am like a fish out of water,

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Why cant a narcissist admit when they are wrong?

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

How can I get rid of the fake girls on social media that are claiming to be hookups? Is there a way to shuffle through them and the real women that actually want to talk?

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

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ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Now here in this verse

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

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ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

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— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

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Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Kabir (a weaver)

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

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Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

CONCLUSION:

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I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

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Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Sain (a barber)

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

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All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

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ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

NOW…

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

then who is there to know what happens without?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.